ss Noordzee
Re: s/s of m/s Noordzee
Henk, je bederft mijn plezier niet hoor. Ik ben alleen nieuwsgierig waar die telegraaf vandaan komt.
Wellicht sloopten ze in Griekenland oude Amerikaanse oorlogsschepen, ik zoek wel verder bedankt.
Wellicht sloopten ze in Griekenland oude Amerikaanse oorlogsschepen, ik zoek wel verder bedankt.
Re: s/s of m/s Noordzee
Hieronder nog een paar fotootjes van de Noordzee en als de AP170-Winged Arrow, ten anker, genomen op 19-05-1946. De laatste geeft een indruk hoe 1676 manschappen een fotootje voor thuis maakten.
Voor de 4 spaanse matrozen op de stelling plank hoop ik dat de fluit afgeblind was. Arbo was nog ver weg.
Voor de 4 spaanse matrozen op de stelling plank hoop ik dat de fluit afgeblind was. Arbo was nog ver weg.
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Re: s/s of m/s Noordzee
Klopt nu ook dat de "Noordzee" in charter bij Central Gulf voer ?.
Aan de kleuren van de schoorsteen te zien wel !?.
m.v.g., Roy
Aan de kleuren van de schoorsteen te zien wel !?.
m.v.g., Roy
Een individu weet meer niet dan wel.
Laat dat a.u.b. zo blijven................
Laat dat a.u.b. zo blijven................
Re: ss Noordzee
De Overzeese Scheepvaart Maatschappij, eigenaar van de NOORDZEE, was, evenals Cia Maritima Unidas, eigendom van Central Gulf Lines. Onder Liberiaanse vlag voeren de ZUIDERZEE (Liberty) en TAPPANZEE (Victory). CGL heeft jaren later nog de BILDERDYK gekocht van Incotrans. De NOORDZEE was het enige schip van het C2-S-B1 type dat onder Nederlandse vlag heeft gevaren. De TJIPANAS was van het C2-Cargo (M)-type en in 1970-71 voeren nog zes schepen van het type C2-S-AJ1 en AJ2 onder Antilliaanse vlag, ANTILLIAN BARON, - BREWER, -HAWK, - FOX, - TIGER en -STAR. Zij waren van Antillian Carriers, een dochtermaatschappij van Columbia Steamship Co., Portland (Ore). Al deze gegevens staan in het boek STANDAARDSCHEPEN 1939-1945 IN DE NEDERLANDSE EN BELGISCHE KOOPVAARDIJ (2 delen), Uitgeverij De Alk.
Dick
Dick
Re: ss Noordzee
Ik kan helaas nergens afbeeldingen van de Zuiderzee en de Tappanzee vinden,jammer.Groeten,Arie.
Re: ss Noordzee
...ik ook niet...
Misschien als de oorspronkelijke naam als zoekopdracht wordt gebruikt ?
De Amerikanen hebben daar een aardig archief van, ook met foto's.....
Misschien als de oorspronkelijke naam als zoekopdracht wordt gebruikt ?
De Amerikanen hebben daar een aardig archief van, ook met foto's.....
Oost, west...ook best
Re: ss Noordzee
Foto's staan in het door mij eerder genoemde boek (deel 2)
Re: ss Noordzee
Hier de Zuiderzee als Peach Tree State.
Name: ELWIN F.KNOWLES Type: Cargo ship Launch Date: 14.4.45
Flag: USA Date of completion: 4.45
Tons: 7176 Link: 1834
DWT: 10865
Ship Design: EC2-S-C1 LPP: 126.8 Country of build: USA
Beam: 17.3 Builder: New England
Location of yard: Portland (East)
Number ofscrews/Mchy/Speed(kn): 1T-11
Subsequent History:
47 PEACH TREE STATE - 55 ZUIDERZEE - 61 WESTCHESTER - 64 MERCANTILE WAVE - 64 GRAND STAR
Disposal Data:
BU Kaohsiung 1968
IDNo: 2247713 Year: 1945Name: ELWIN F.KNOWLES Type: Cargo ship Launch Date: 14.4.45
Flag: USA Date of completion: 4.45
Tons: 7176 Link: 1834
DWT: 10865
Ship Design: EC2-S-C1 LPP: 126.8 Country of build: USA
Beam: 17.3 Builder: New England
Location of yard: Portland (East)
Number ofscrews/Mchy/Speed(kn): 1T-11
Subsequent History:
47 PEACH TREE STATE - 55 ZUIDERZEE - 61 WESTCHESTER - 64 MERCANTILE WAVE - 64 GRAND STAR
Disposal Data:
BU Kaohsiung 1968
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Hier de Tappanzee als Mormacspruce, helaas een beetje beschadigd.
Name: MUNCIE VICTORY Keel: 9.10.44
Type: Cargo ship Launch Date: 7.12.44
Flag: USA Date of completion: 1.45
Tons: 7607
DWT: 10750
Length overall: 138.8 Ship Design: VC2-S-AP2
Country of build: USA
Builder: Permanente
Location of yard: Richmond #2
Number ofscrews/Mchy/Speed(kn): 1ST-15.5
Subsequent History:
[1962 Lg 166.2/160.5m, 9465gt/13222dw] - 51 MORMACSPRUCE - 55 BLACK DRAGON - 57 TAPPANZEE - 59 GREEN ISLAND
Disposal Data:
BU Kaohsiung 16.11.71
IDNo: 5135642 Year: 1945Name: MUNCIE VICTORY Keel: 9.10.44
Type: Cargo ship Launch Date: 7.12.44
Flag: USA Date of completion: 1.45
Tons: 7607
DWT: 10750
Length overall: 138.8 Ship Design: VC2-S-AP2
Country of build: USA
Builder: Permanente
Location of yard: Richmond #2
Number ofscrews/Mchy/Speed(kn): 1ST-15.5
Subsequent History:
[1962 Lg 166.2/160.5m, 9465gt/13222dw] - 51 MORMACSPRUCE - 55 BLACK DRAGON - 57 TAPPANZEE - 59 GREEN ISLAND
Disposal Data:
BU Kaohsiung 16.11.71
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Moore-McCormack
Mormacspruce
The Mormacspruce is Acquired
("The Mooremack News," March 1951)
The cargo liner Mormacspruce, thirty-sixth unit of Moore-McCormack Lines' owned fleet, has been purchased from the Maritime Administration and is en route to the Baltic as this issue of "The Mooremack News" goes to press.
The ship, formerly the Muncie Victory, is in command of Captain C. B. Hamblett, a veteran Mooremack master. She follows the usual line of the Victory type ship – 7,600 gross tons, 455 feet 3 inches long, 62 feet beam and 28 feet 6 inches draft.
The Mormacspruce went first to Baltimore to load for the Baltic, then to Philadelphia and New York and finally to Halifax. She sailed from Halifax on March 10.
Captain Hamblett came to Moore-McCormack as a third mate, in 1938. He served as second mate, then first officer, of the Brazil, served five years in the Navy during the war and returned to the company in November 1946. His first command with the company was the Mormacdale. He also commanded the Mormacfuel and the Mormacreed.
Canaveral Plays Host
(From "The Mooremack News," Autumn 1955)
The up-and-coming port of Canaveral, on Florida’s east coast, bustled eagerly in mid-June when the Moore-McCormack cargo liner Mormacspruce, commanded by Captain Andrew Horkovich, tied up. For this was the first merchant ship to call at Canaveral, and the folk, who are planning big things for the port, hoped they could consider the arrival a good omen.
So happy were they, indeed, that they gathered in goodly number aboard the ship and applauded while Karl Brinson, Commissioner of the Port Authority, presented an engraved gold watch to the veteran Moore-McCormack master. The Mormacspruce was under charter to the Military Sea Transportation Service.
The ship had come primarily to load vehicles, lumber and other cargo for transportation to St. Lucia Island in the West Indies. The reason for this operation was that the Patrick Air Force Base is located at Canaveral and several pieces of equipment had to be moved from it to St. Lucia.
However, this was only one phase of the general plan. Forty miles away is the city of Orlando, center of the Indian River citrus country, and if certain plans work out as hoped Canaveral can develop as a fairly important port of export. Several towns and cities in the neighborhood are deeply interested, notably nearby Cocoa and Rockledge, whose mayors, Gary Bennett and Roy Estridge, were present aboard the Mormacspruce during the ceremonies. George J. King, manager of the Port Authority, is probably the most enthusiastic of all.
Actually, Canaveral is about eighteen months old as a port, buoys and other channel markers having been installed and dedication ceremonies held in early 1954. But nothing quite as important as the Mormacspruce had arrived to lend it official recognition.
Mormacspruce
The Mormacspruce is Acquired
("The Mooremack News," March 1951)
The cargo liner Mormacspruce, thirty-sixth unit of Moore-McCormack Lines' owned fleet, has been purchased from the Maritime Administration and is en route to the Baltic as this issue of "The Mooremack News" goes to press.
The ship, formerly the Muncie Victory, is in command of Captain C. B. Hamblett, a veteran Mooremack master. She follows the usual line of the Victory type ship – 7,600 gross tons, 455 feet 3 inches long, 62 feet beam and 28 feet 6 inches draft.
The Mormacspruce went first to Baltimore to load for the Baltic, then to Philadelphia and New York and finally to Halifax. She sailed from Halifax on March 10.
Captain Hamblett came to Moore-McCormack as a third mate, in 1938. He served as second mate, then first officer, of the Brazil, served five years in the Navy during the war and returned to the company in November 1946. His first command with the company was the Mormacdale. He also commanded the Mormacfuel and the Mormacreed.
Canaveral Plays Host
(From "The Mooremack News," Autumn 1955)
The up-and-coming port of Canaveral, on Florida’s east coast, bustled eagerly in mid-June when the Moore-McCormack cargo liner Mormacspruce, commanded by Captain Andrew Horkovich, tied up. For this was the first merchant ship to call at Canaveral, and the folk, who are planning big things for the port, hoped they could consider the arrival a good omen.
So happy were they, indeed, that they gathered in goodly number aboard the ship and applauded while Karl Brinson, Commissioner of the Port Authority, presented an engraved gold watch to the veteran Moore-McCormack master. The Mormacspruce was under charter to the Military Sea Transportation Service.
The ship had come primarily to load vehicles, lumber and other cargo for transportation to St. Lucia Island in the West Indies. The reason for this operation was that the Patrick Air Force Base is located at Canaveral and several pieces of equipment had to be moved from it to St. Lucia.
However, this was only one phase of the general plan. Forty miles away is the city of Orlando, center of the Indian River citrus country, and if certain plans work out as hoped Canaveral can develop as a fairly important port of export. Several towns and cities in the neighborhood are deeply interested, notably nearby Cocoa and Rockledge, whose mayors, Gary Bennett and Roy Estridge, were present aboard the Mormacspruce during the ceremonies. George J. King, manager of the Port Authority, is probably the most enthusiastic of all.
Actually, Canaveral is about eighteen months old as a port, buoys and other channel markers having been installed and dedication ceremonies held in early 1954. But nothing quite as important as the Mormacspruce had arrived to lend it official recognition.
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